Papal ' infallibility ' ... what one Pope says is retracted by the next Pope...

[old man joe]

the Popes claim they are infallible in their decrees, yet this small list contains
a number to such decrees which are later retracted by other Popes... who's lying to
who ?


"Victor I (189-199) first approved of Montanism in 192, and then later
condemned it.

Honorius (625-638) taught the heresy of Monotheism,
which denied that Christ simultaneously possessed two separate
natures-human and divine. He was later condemned as a heretic by the
Third Council of Constantinople in 680.

Marcellinus (296-304) entered the Temple of Vesta and offered incense to the pagan
goddess.

Liberius(352-366) consented to the condemnation of Athanasius, the 'great
defender of the Deity of Christ,' and made a profession of Arianism
that he might be recalled from exile and reinstated in his seat.

Gregory I (590) declared that anyone who believed it was not necessary to take both
the bread and wine at Mass was to be excommunicated.

Innocent III (1215) stated that anyone who believed it was necessary was to be
excommunicated.

Paschal II (1099-1118) and Eugene III (1145-1153) authorized dueling; Julius II
(1503-1513) and Pius VII (1800-1823) forbade it.

Hadrian II (867-872) declared civil marriages to be valid; Pius VII condemned them.

Sixtus V (1585-1590) published an edition of the Bible and recommended it to be read;
PiusVII condemned the reading of it, claiming the edition to be full of errors.

Clement XIV (1769-1774) abolished the order of the Jesuits; Paul III (1534-1549)
permitted it and Pius VII re-established it.

The list of such errors is quite lengthy, but the foregoing examples
sufficiently prove our point."

[•R. L. Measures]

Post by old man joe
the Popes claim they are infallible in their decrees, yet this small list contains
a number to such decrees which are later retracted by other Popes... who's lying to
who ?
"Victor I (189-199) first approved of Montanism in 192, and then later
condemned it.
Honorius (625-638) taught the heresy of Monotheism,
which denied that Christ simultaneously possessed two separate
natures-human and divine. He was later condemned as a heretic by the
Third Council of Constantinople in 680.
Marcellinus (296-304) entered the Temple of Vesta and offered incense to the pagan
goddess.
Liberius(352-366) consented to the condemnation of Athanasius, the 'great
defender of the Deity of Christ,' and made a profession of Arianism
that he might be recalled from exile and reinstated in his seat.
Gregory I (590) declared that anyone who believed it was not necessary to take both
the bread and wine at Mass was to be excommunicated.
Innocent III (1215) stated that anyone who believed it was necessary was to be
excommunicated.
Paschal II (1099-1118) and Eugene III (1145-1153) authorized dueling; Julius II
(1503-1513) and Pius VII (1800-1823) forbade it.
Hadrian II (867-872) declared civil marriages to be valid; Pius VII condemned them.
Sixtus V (1585-1590) published an edition of the Bible and recommended it to be read;
PiusVII condemned the reading of it, claiming the edition to be full of errors.
Clement XIV (1769-1774) abolished the order of the Jesuits; Paul III (1534-1549)
permitted it and Pius VII re-established it.
The list of such errors is quite lengthy, but the foregoing examples
sufficiently prove our point."

** The workaround: Any Bull that came out of an infallible pope's mouth
that later proves to be questionable is retroactively just some guy's
opinion. Example: Pope Gregory XIII pernitted abortion, modern popes
condemn the hell out of it.

[Patrick]

Post by old man joe
the Popes claim they are infallible in their decrees, yet this small list contains
a number to such decrees which are later retracted by other Popes... who's lying to
who ?

You are lying.
Popes do not now, nor have ever claimed to be infallible.
Certain decrees have been identified as infallible.
(such as "old man joe" is a dork.

[•R. L. Measures]

Post by Patrick

Post by old man joe
the Popes claim they are infallible in their decrees, yet this small list contains
a number to such decrees which are later retracted by other Popes... who's lying to
who ?

You are lying.
Popes do not now, nor have ever claimed to be infallible.
Certain decrees have been identified as infallible.
(such as "old man joe" is a dork.

• Patrick plays the Ad Hominem Card.